Elissa Schappell

How could Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore divorce?

The Sonic Youth stars showed a generation how to grow up and stay cool. So we believed they had to be perfect

Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore (Credit: Reuters/Jessica Rinaldi/Salon)

I didn’t react well to the news that Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore, king and queen of the indie-rock scene, were getting divorced after 27 years of marriage. How could New York’s “underground power couple” call it quits? As if they were mere mortals?

It came up on my Twitter feed Friday, which made the news seem all the worse — a bit of factual flotsam on my phone. It wasn’t some cocktail party rumor. I felt sick and off-balance, searching for confirmation, vision blurred with tears. I thought, I feel like I’m reading an obituary.

“Are you fucking kidding me?!” I texted my husband.

“Yeah, it’s really sad,” he wrote back, without nearly enough emotion for someone who always wore this ecstatic expression during the infinite groove on “Expressway to Yr Skull.”

“If it can happen to Kim and Thurston, it can happen to anyone,” a friend said morosely. Another asked, “Do you know why they’re splitting up?”

“No,” I snapped, feeling oddly protective of their privacy, “and I don’t want to know. That’s their business.”

I don’t know them. I’m not now, nor have I ever been, friends with Kim and Thurston. We lived on the same Lower East Side block for a while, and for the last 25 years I’ve seen them around town and at shows, either their own or in the audience for everyone from Sebadoh to Shonen Knife. Most recently, our teenage daughters’ bands shared a bill with their daughter, Coco, and we had the shared experience of proud parents appreciating the joy of their kids expressing themselves onstage.

I feel like I can call them Kim and Thurston because they never felt like celebrities to me; they were just the down-to-earth, keeping-it-real, DIY rock stars that lived next door. More than that, for the majority of my adult life, they’ve inspired me through their music and art, and yes, through their marriage and parenting.

The first time I saw Sonic Youth was in 1987 at CBGBs, at a benefit for a record store that had flooded. I was with my then-boyfriend, later husband, Rob Spillman. I remember hearing “Hot Wire My Heart” and thinking that should be our song. The evening ended with a cacophonous cover of “I Wanna Be Your Dog.” The last time I saw them was in 2009 at McCarren Pool in Brooklyn with my then 14-year-old daughter, jumping up and down as we sang along to “Schizophrenia.”

When my husband proposed to me at 22, the idea of getting married seemed a bit absurd, but also the most rebellious thing I could think of — I mean, only squares got married. Look, we’d say to each other, Kim and Thurston are married, as though that gave us permission. They made monogamy, the whole til-death-do-us-part seem rad. Being married didn’t mean losing some part of yourself, it meant making each other stronger.

Onstage and off, neither seemed dominant; they were equal. They didn’t cling to each other in public, they gave each other space — still, in a crowd, you’d pick them out as a couple. They fit, in a way some couples, even after years of marriage, simply don’t seem to.

There they were up on stage, attacking their guitars with screwdrivers, shredding, nursing howling feedback, singing solo and together, their voices perfectly tuned to each other’s. Look at them, I thought: They were in love and married and making art. They were cool and hardcore, with a profound seriousness about their art, and they hadn’t sold out or gotten soft. In an age of irony, where I’d feign indifference and cover up my insecurity with mockery, they weren’t too cool to care.

Years later, freaking out over the fact that we were even thinking of having a child, Kim and Thurston showed us the way. Seeing Kim and Thurston with Coco, walking past the Dean & Deluca downtown, made being a parent seem not only possible, but infinitely hip. By the time I got pregnant, they’d made two more records. Indeed, half of Sonic Youth’s music (and scores of side projects) were produced after their daughter was born, proving you could be “alternative” as well as “traditional” and successful.

Kim was a mom — she loved her daughter, loved being a mother, and she was still writing and performing. She was also completely ripped. It made me think that motherhood had made her even more of a badass. So, why not me?

Sure, some of the sadness I feel over Kim and Thurston splitting is tied to nostalgia, a remembrance of a long gone past. I’ve become one of those tedious boors lamenting the death of downtown New York. Kim’s Video, King Tut’s Wa Wa Hut, holding my breath as I pass CBGBs, a sacred place defiled. I miss the days of the Tompkins Square riots and squatters and boomboxes. I’d rather hear the sibilant lowing of “Smoke? Smoke?” than a toddler wailing on the playground, and yes, I’m crying over spilt organic milk.

I tell myself, for Christ’s sake, they left the Lower East Side ages ago, left New York City, decamping to Northampton, Mass. — and made the denizens of that groovy town feel even more smug about their own decisions to flee New York City. (They just claimed Frank Black.) In all honesty, their move did — briefly — set me wondering if we were crazy not to at least consider ditching our cramped Brooklyn digs for hipper pastures.

And if there’s some nostalgia, there’s lots of projecting. No one can really know what goes on inside another couple’s marriage. Sure, from the outside — the great musical successes, arty side projects, the house featured in shelter magazines, the “It girl” daughter — they looked like the epitome of domestic bliss.

But who knows? At some point, I’ll want to know what happened. Just not now. I don’t want to hear about infidelity, some clichéd open marriage bullshit (that always goes badly) or the old-as-dirt tale of trading in the old wife for the new model. I don’t want to hear about addiction, or cruelty, or gambling debts. Instead, I’m left to project my own shit and fears. Who knows, though, what it was like sitting at the kitchen table on a Sunday morning when they were out of coffee. What it was like to balance careers that each required traveling, negotiating time-zone differences, weeks spent apart.  Who knows what compromises were made, and what sacrifices. Who knows what personal disappointments and resentments they endured. Coco will soon be of college age. It’s not uncommon for parents today to consider renegotiating their marriage contract once the children are out of the house. Maybe they just fell out of love, maybe by inches, the way uneven proportions of sand and water can become concrete.

Why should they be different than the rest of us?

And therein lies my problem letting them go. What’s scarier than a couple deciding — after 30 years of being in a band they created, 27 years of marriage, 17 years spent raising a child – that now they’re done with it? As they succeeded, we succeeded. Now the world just got a little less cool.

Last night, I went through some of our old records (how the hell will Kim and Thurston divide their albums?). I played “Evol,” “Daydream Nation” — a desert island record — and “Confusion is Sex/Kill Your Idols.” Kill Your Idols. It was time to trust that I can go on. Well, that or put on a Yo La Tengo album…

Elissa Schappell

"Use Me"

Elissa Shappell is the author of the “Hot Type” column for Vanity Fair and is a founding editor of the new literary journal, Tin House. She received her MFA from the Creative Writing Program at New York University, has been a senior editor at The Paris Review and has contributed to numerous magazines including GQ, Vogue, Bomb, Bookforum, and Spin. In her debut novel “Use Me” (William, Morrow & Co.), a collection of ten related stories, she explores the relationships between friends and family, betrayal and loyalty.

“…Use Me is a wonderfully satisfying book…Schappell is a comic writer with impeccable timing, and Use Me is quick and entertaining.” — The New York Times Book Review

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My mother's 10 rules to live by

Take them with a grain of salt, but just one grain or you'll bloat.

1. Never apologize for your cooking.

Simply say, if your guests inquire about the intriguing blue-gray puddle beneath their pork chops, or the haystack quality of your turkey tetrazzini, “That’s how they do it in France.”

2. Sex is only good if it’s with someone you love.

This, as far as I know, is the only lie my mother has ever told me.

3. Go out with him; you never know whom you will meet. Who knows, he might have nice friends.

Meaning: Go out with him, maybe after a six-pack of wine coolers, he won’t seem like such a crashing bore.

4. Put a quarter in your shoe. No matter what, you can always call me and I’ll come get you. No questions asked.

No questions were necessary when my mother brought me home roaring drunk from an ugly debutante function — there were always a few of us public school girls invited for local color — and I chased an imaginary lobster around the kitchen. Punishment — pulling weeds at 8 a.m. with a ripping hangover — was necessary.

5. Don’t worry, it will be dark.

This is said when my eyeliner is crookedly applied, making me look like a stroke victim, or when I’ve just noticed that my dress sports a mysterious stain, possibly wine, mud or barbecue sauce. A garden party? “Don’t worry,” my mother chants, “it will be dark!” Translated, that means: “Daughter, you are a blazing little sun; no one will care what you are wearing! All around you is darkness!”

6. Are you going out in that?

I realize this is a classic mom line, but it reminds me of a funny story.

In the ’70s, my mother was, to my preppy wrap-skirt and docksiders horror, wild about long, slinky halter dresses. She and my father once were invited to a dinner party thrown by some stuffy, conservative folks. My mother decided to buy a new dress for the occasion. Thing was, the dress she fell in love with wasn’t a dress at all, it was a nightgown. A long, silky, midnight-blue nightgown with spaghetti straps and a plunging back.

She was mad about it, so she wore it to the party. Perhaps there were stares, or whispers, but according to my mother, it dawned on her, somewhere around the salad course, that it really did appear as though she was wearing a nightgown and she was mortified.

Instead of feigning malaria or a chill and commandeering my father’s suit coat (always a cunning look), my mother just acted as if nothing was wrong. In the car on the way home, she asked my father, “How could you let me go out in a nightgown?” To which he replied, “You really seemed to want to wear it.”

As if anybody could have stopped her.

7. You can freeze that and serve it again if company should happen to drop by.

This happens. Unearthed from the back of my mother’s freezer, I have seen mysterious blocks of ice defrost into surreal banquets of crab cream, sausage tarts, pecan pie, chocolate decadence and nameless casseroles of undetermined origins. Thing is, people keep coming back.

8. When someone asks you to dance, say yes; you never know if you’ll be asked again.

My mother is a dancer. Not a professional Arthur Murray type, but a “dancing to the Cowboy Junkies while folding laundry” kind of dancer. (Not to mention a sickeningly limber and strong yoga person who can contort in ways that ought to make her a shoo-in should she ever pursue a second life in the circus.)

In the ’50s, while ensconced at a girls boarding school, my mother and her roommates used to sneak down to the kitchen after lights out, where the kitchen staff, all black men, were listening to the radio. These gentlemen taught my mother and her friends to dance.

I can just see my mother in a cardigan that my grandmother knitted for her, in loafers with no socks, her blond pageboy hair pinned away from her face, dancing with a bemused gentleman beside a six-burner stove and a giant stainless steel sink, a gleaming assortment of pots and pans hanging overhead like a chandelier.

9. Don’t say “hate.” Hate is a very strong word.

But it is OK to hate Hitler.

10. Never blow your own horn.

As in, I’ll do it for you.

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Born to pop pills

I have a well-chosen capsule for every occasion.

Here is what I hate: pain. Here is what I love: extra-strength anything. Believe me, if it were socially acceptable, I’d name a baby Codeine.

It all started with baby aspirin, St. Joseph’s. I was 12. The sweet orange tang, the transformation on the tongue from pill to sand to a velvety pink stripe — I was hooked. It wasn’t just the taste I craved, it was the imagined fortification those little peach-colored pills imparted. I was a ridiculously morbid child, acutely aware of my own mortality. On my 10th birthday I had locked myself in the bathroom and sobbed, refusing to come out. The pink cake, balloons, Barbies — it all seemed pointless. I would be two digits now, forever. I was no longer a child. I was dying.

By the time I was 14, I was sucking mentholated eucalyptus cough drops and starting to smoke Salem Lights (I thought they kept me skinny), imagining that in some crazy way the cough drops were rebuilding my lungs. That’s right, healing me. I was, by then, a fool for pharmaceuticals — anything that would make life sweeter, hazier, less scary, more exciting. In no time at all, I got into heavier stuff, sneaking around, copping extra-strength Tylenol and Vicks cough drops at Happy Harry’s pharmacy.

The rest of my family had — still does — a very Yankee approach to pain. Medication is strictly limited to uncoated aspirin, Pepto-Bismol, gin and bitter lemon, and a lot of fresh air. If your shrieks of pain are drowned out by the wind, they don’t exist.

I, however, did not inherit the gene for stoicism. I’ve never been terribly brave. Even thinking about death as a melodramatic teen girl — Will I be able to see my friends, or will I be forced to sit in alphabetical order for eternity? What if there is no God! — put me over the edge. All the existential dread an adolescent lint trap of a brain can spin out got me chomping Flintstones chewables and taking tugs on the Robitussin.

My crush on pills turned into a full-blown love affair the year I turned 15 and my father was diagnosed with lymphoma. A tumor as big as a cocktail onion nestled under his jaw line. Almost overnight, I became even more obsessed with taking medicine. I needed it. I made myself chew adult aspirin, and as I gnashed my teeth, choking down the sour, chalky tablets, I felt impervious to harm. I envisioned surviving a crash landing in the desert and being the sole survivor able to ingest painkillers without water. I imagined building up a martyr’s level of painkiller in my blood that would protect me from feeling anything.

Because my father was a Ph.D. chemist, I believed myself invested, by proxy, with some kind of unique knowledge of drugs. All those little experiments he’d brought home from the lab for me and my sister to play with — a stupendous concoction that made bright pink foam bubble out of a test tube, and two liquids that, when united, created a terrific bang — had made me a scientist. Forget that I couldn’t do math. I was arrogant. I knew best.

“Suggested dosages” were for suckers. After all, pale flower that I was, I felt pain more intensely than others. So I took slightly more than was prescribed — always. I also had to figure, pill popper that I was, that there was a level of tolerance that had to be accounted for.

My father’s doctors took a high-tech melon-baller to the lump and sent him home with bright orange silos full of pills — a low dose of chemotherapy. He didn’t even have to take them for a month, that’s how well they worked. It was astonishing; he never even looked sick. For one weekend he let the lawn go and he took a nap, something he never did. But not one dark hair fell from his head. He was cured, I believed, by both his Superman-like will to live and those pills.

My father was in remission when I went off to college. I felt weak and guilty as I popped my pills at keg parties or in the library stacks. In addition to my off-the-shelf pain relievers, I had phenobarbital for anxiety and panic attacks and Zantac for an ulcer brought on, no doubt, by my double major of English and Middle American partying.

I was a Girl Scout in pursuit of my pharmaceuticals badge. I was a walking medicine cabinet; I nearly rattled when I walked. I trusted pills. I could have kissed the chemist who created gel caps. Two blue-green gel caps — meditate on that. I mean, was there any image more soothing? Not for me.

I liked feeling as if I had my own little army of soldiers ready for deployment at the drop of a boyfriend, ready to storm the beaches of reality. I liked being able to delude myself that I could take care of myself, that I was really taking control of my life. I may have been heading for the express ramp, but I was in control.

Until the cancer came back, six years later, my father took aspirin for pain, plus a little Bengay for post-squash-game aches. The second time around, the cancer was an almond-size tumor in his lung. (Why is it that cancers always come in the shape of fruits and vegetables? Is it less frightening to hear you have a green-bean-size tumor vs. a tumor as big as a AA battery?)

After the surgery to remove half his lung, my father started on morphine; but for fear of getting addicted, he took only half his prescription. Also at this time, my father did break down and add a new drug to his wee host of pharmaceuticals — a seasickness pill for the scuba diving he took up after his lung surgery.

In his case, cancer was like a mangy dog you keep thinking you’ve left on the highway but that keeps showing up at your back door. It took six years, but the cancer had shown up again, filling my father’s lungs, metastasizing to his spine.

It was only then, in considerable pain and under the doctor’s orders, that my father began popping steroids and painkillers. As my father got sicker, I began to develop psychosomatic symptoms. His back and neck hurt; the length of my spine felt as if it was being forced through a meat grinder. He couldn’t draw deep breaths and his throat was sore; ditto for me. He had numbness in his extremities, and he had nausea; me too, me too.

I suppose I wanted to be close to him. At the slightest threat of pain — headache, stomachache, a swollen gland — I was certain I, too, was dying. After all, I was his daughter. I was sure I loved my father more than any other girl and so how could I live without him? I took a pill.

I popped pills in defense, I popped pills in solidarity. It was a bonding thing, although I never confessed my ailments to my father. I liked to think that, sometimes, as I took a pill like Wellbutrin — a bit of smiling sky — perhaps my father and I were dosing at the same time. One part of me knew that I was going to lose him, but there was still a part of me that held out some hope of a miracle. I was desperate for even the most tenuous connection.

Returning home from the hospital after my father died, the first thing we did was go through the house with a giant green trash bag, rounding up all his pills, from morphine to Benadryl, and throwing them out. We blamed them, in some small part, for failing him, for failing us. I was punishing science, turning my back on pills. I didn’t believe in them anymore.

It didn’t last. The fallout from his death was overwhelming and I found myself back on an antidepressant; but all my other drugs, all my little friends, I shunted to the back of the medicine closet. I wanted to feel pain. How much more could I possibly hurt? To not feel pain felt like a betrayal.

After a couple of years, I started to realize I didn’t need to carry an arsenal of painkillers and mood modifiers. After all, the worst I could have imagined had happened, and it didn’t kill me. I could, if I chose, handle anything. Pills didn’t hold the same sway for me.

Not that I am reformed. I haven’t kicked pills altogether, oh no. To this day I usually have on hand at least two types of tranquilizers — Ativan, a white tepee-shaped, slow-pitch anxiety reliever, and Xanax, a white, blue and peach take-’em-down-at-the-knees pill for attacks of panic. I also occasionally carry Klonopin, a cheery safety-orange disk with a cut-out “K”; it’s highly addictive but good to have on hand, just in case.

When I travel, this is what I pack: green and white Sudafed Sinus, for any close encounters of the pollen and mold kind, and a muscle relaxant (the name long erased from the bottle, as a result of my talismanic rubbing), just in case I should find myself moved to engage in some kind of activity I usually eschew, like swing dancing, capricious movement of heavy furniture or the occasional “Hey, I’m not that old” back walkover, usually performed after a couple of mai tais. I’ve got a few penicillins in there (yes, I realize you must take the entire prescription), because at times one sallies forth without shoes, or a scarf at the throat, tempting all sorts of mayhem. There’s the two blue Zoviraxes, in case I should forget my parasol — my quaint protection from the rude sun — and begin to sense a slight tingling in my lips, the doomed harbinger of dastardly cold sores.

Also tucked into the first-aid kit are a tin of chalky tummy drugs such as Titralac, Gaviscon and their poor relation, Tums; two pretty pink Benadryl capsules, should I be beset by hives or insomnia; Atenolol, a performance-anxiety drug, because you never know when you will be called upon to do an impromptu recitation or have to commandeer a classroom of roaming creative writing students. Finally, and most banally, I have red and white Excedrin Migraine tablets for headaches and the strangely orangey-brown Advil for everything else. Advils are the M&Ms of the pain pill world, slightly sweet and easy to swallow — you can take fistfuls of these.

I realize my habit raises eyebrows in some circles. But unlike vitamin gobblers, or those who would imbibe elixirs of echinacea and goldenseal, brew murky bark teas or dribble tinctures of flowers on the back of their tongues, I want certainty. I want statistical results backed up by pie charts, not herbal patent medicine quackery.

I confess to a flirtation with the very Victorian idea of distilling and ingesting essences of herbs and flowers, flakes of robin’s blood and powdered foxgloves, but when it comes right down to it, in the middle of the night, when I’m haunted by phantoms and gnawed at by pain or dread, or both, I reach for my revolver — three Excedrin PMs.

While I am a lot slower now to pop just any pill or tuck into codeine syrup, in my heart I still believe in the power of the well-chosen pill. If that means I am just one step away from getting a Burroughs-Wellcome tattoo on my fanny, well, so be it. Though I don’t take half of what I used to — and though I am still devoted to over-the-counter pain pills — I do like to have some big-time pharmaceuticals on hand, just in case. It’s like having a hit man in the family. Those pills are like an old friend you know you can rely on, someone who has seen you at, and through, your very worst.

Recently I was spring-cleaning my bathroom closet and happened upon a bevy of zip-lock bags in a box at the rear of a shelf. As I went through the bags I found a sample of nearly every prescription I’ve ever had. Romantic that I am, I’d kept them the way you’d keep a corsage from a fancy dance, to remind you of a love affair, a tempestuous and dangerous flirtation, a bad mistake. I shook the jars and listened to their songs.

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